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[meppi]

This one has just been released in the US on Virtual Console and will probably hit Europe either this week or next:



For a quick review head over here.
Although I believe the game is easily 10/10 myself.

[triverse]

It is times like this that I really, honestly, feel bad to be a retro gamer.  I mean, people will complain all day long that they want titles like this then when a company goes and does it, they ignore it and don't buy it.  This is not the first time that Konami has gone and done this, they did a brand new 2D Contra on DS and PS2 and as far as I know, they didn't sell that well (amazing when you consider the amount of demand there seemingly was).

I have never played this title and unfortunately don't have a Wii to purchase this version, I do have a PSP and have purchased many of the updated classics for that (the various releases from Capcom and Konami and a few others).

My point is, not to be down on retro gamers, I mean, if you want more titles like this, then buy this and the others.  Support the companies supporting you.

[meppi]

Tell me about it, and is various cases a game like this which "hardcore" gamers have been asking for for a long time, simply doesn't sell because those same people don't buy them when they are released.
And thus don't even get released in other markets.

I had to import Contra 4 on DS and will probably never get to play ExciteBots! 
It's a sad state the game industry is in really. So many flavor of the month games doing so well and so many classics falling by the wayside.

Dracula X was also released in Europe this past Friday btw. Got it myself on Saturday and the port is nearly perfect in every regard.
I still prefer the original game on the original system like I do with everything, but I wouldn't feel bad if I was only able to play the VC version.

One thing I'm glad about is that we don't have to hope this one sells well so we could get another classic Castlevania game, since Castlevania rebirth was already released on WiiWare.
And it's also great btw. Not on the same level as Dracula X, but still extremely enjoyable.

[Addicted to Chaos]

Tell me about it, and is various cases a game like this which "hardcore" gamers have been asking for for a long time, simply doesn't sell because those same people don't buy them when they are released.
And thus don't even get released in other markets.

What harcore gamers, my hypothesis is that all these people that talk/claim they are hardcore gamers aren't really. As far as I know, most people from my day that talk and act like harcore gamers and/or say they are into retro, really aren't and don't have good tastes in games like a hardcore gamer would.

Now take people closer to the current generation of gaming claiming to be hardcore and into retro, do you think they stand a better chance at appreciating older games than someone from that generation?

I'm just tossing this out to see what others think, and to help me get a better understanding, hopefully. Don't mean to sound like I know it all, or that I'm a harcore gamer, but I'm definately more hardcore than alot of other people that claim to be, which is part of what brought me to that question.

Another thing that bothers me, is that the media (magazines, net) is basically telling everybody what is hardcore or not. And people are really just repeating what they hear, about a game being hardcore/timeless classic, instead of experiancing that game fully themselfs. And by fully I mean beginning to end and maybe even repeat playthroughs for it's enjoyment to kick in. Reason I mentioned this is because there are games that are overated or too overated, and should be asked for.

Yet another reason could be that whatever hardcore gamers are left only care about the old games, therefore old by used carts off ebay, and don't care about the current state of the industry.

I don't know, I kinda wote too much maybe.

[triverse]

Nah, Addicted, you're cool man, you definitely didn't say too much.  In fact that is what I think is part of the problem we all face now-people holding back their opinion or feelings when they really have more interesting things to say than the people that get listened to. 

I agree with most of your comments about the hardcore only being into the retro through purchasing carts and original CD's off of ebay.  People like meppi are too few and far between, ones that are hardcore and willing to support the newer generation of hardware through purchases but is not scared to throw down cold hard cash on a retro title that is re-released. 

There are definitely more people that would rather claim they are hardcore because it sounds cool and they know that if they fake it just enough, they might fool enough people to develop a following of sorts on the net (or at least more than just a few people that will follow their babbling comments).

The point is, no matter what you are as a gamer, old school, hardcore, new gen etc, if you care about playing good games then definitely check out titles like Rondo of Blood (and for the record, Konami has a pretty nice ratio of great games to bad games so you are fairly safe with their titles). 

Support any of the companies that are releasing games you want, if you happen to like the flavor of the month game, then by all means, purchase it and support the companies that make the better ones in that category.  If you are more into the lesser popular titles, maybe games that you feel you would get made fun of if word got out, forget those naysayers, buy the games YOU want.

[Addicted to Chaos]

Support any of the companies that are releasing games you want...

I strongly agree with this. Whenever I discover a great game, I always do research on the developers that made it and track down what other games they made, sometimes down to individual person on the team. Sometimes I get really surprised at what other games they made.

More often than not, when there is talent, and not a fluke, they always make great games. A great example is Camelot, they truely love to make great and fun games out of their heart and not all about the money. Companies like Camelot deserve alot of credit and because of the great games they make, they ususally get it.